3 Things to Avoid When Fundraising in LA

by Ryan on January 18, 2011

DISCLAIMER: Everything that I write in this blog is my opinion and you may disagree with it / be offended by it. That’s ok. ūüôā

It’s been over 3 years since I moved to LA and started what I’ll call the Los Angeles Venture Capital “fundraising scene”. ¬†Over the past 3 years, I’ve raised a good deal of money (some disclosed, some undisclosed) and I’ve formed a few opinions along the way, which I’m going to share here in hopes that you can avoid wasting valuable time as you go about your own fundraising efforts in Los Angeles.

1. DON’T PITCH THE BITCH (i.e. Don’t pitch “Associates”)

In this instance, “the bitch” = “the associate at a VC firm” (gender agnostic). Don’t waste your time pitching associates at VC firms. ¬†In my opinion, VC associates have absolutely ZERO decision making ability /¬†influence¬†and will likely leave the firm within a 2 to 3 year period for one reason or another so any long term firm relationship you to wish establish through them will likely fade. ¬†Don’t bother pitching associates, it’s just a waste of your time. ¬†Would you try and sell something to someone if you knew that they ultimately didn’t have the power to approve the purchase? ¬†You’d go right to the decision maker and pitch them wouldn’t you? ¬†I’m not saying you should be rude to VC associates, but what I am saying is that when it’s time to pitch, go straight for the VC partners with real check writing ability. ¬†If they continually pass you off to an associate, be wary. ¬†It’s straight out of the movie¬†Boiler Room, except that in Boiler Room they chauvinistically advise not to sell stock to women. Seriously, don’t pitch the bitch.

2. PAY LITTLE TO NO ATTENTION TO THE FORMALIZED ANGEL GROUPS

Every young entrepreneur in LA has heard of the Tech Coast Angels and their¬†unaffiliated clones /¬†¬†red headed step children – The Pasadena Angels and The Maverick Angels (who actually charge you to pitch – run to the hills). In particular, if you have a “consumer internet” company, i.e. the kind of company you see regularly covered on TechCrunch, then my advice is to not bother with any of the LA based formalized angel groups. ¬†The reasons are too numerous to mention (HINT: ¬†They are Dinosaurs and although they’ll be bragging about Green Dot for the next decade or more, don’t be fooled, you’ll be wasting your valuable time and energy trying to get in front of them).

Rather than ranting aimlessly about these groups (NOTE: I’d be happy to debate them publicly about my issues with them), I’ll just simplify my reasoning behind this point with the following short story: ¬†Someone high up (i.e. a seasoned member) at one of the groups recently told me that he’s fundraising for a new company of his own. ¬†When I asked if he planned on pitching the same formalized angel group at which he holds office, said NO (I’ll refrain from detailing why in an effort not to sell him up the river). ¬†Amazing right? ¬†I could go on and on and ultimately into a tirade ripping into these groups but I’ll keep it professional and just tell you that if a member of the group thinks it’s a waste of time to pitch the group itself, then it’s likely a waste of time for you too. ¬†If you are absolutely set on pitching members of formalized LA based angel groups (TCA, Pasadena Angels, and Maverick Angels), then go directly to the individual angel members themselves for personal investments (rather than the group) or better yet, go and pitch¬†angels that don’t associate themselves with one of these formalized groups.

3. DON’T PITCH FIRMS WITH NO MONEY!

This may sound totally obvious but reality, it’s not always easy to tell, and there are at least a handful of “cashless VCs” in LA. ¬†Due to the awful economy of 2008, 2009 (RIP Good Times), and beyond, some VCs have died off or are in the process of slow downward spiral. ¬†Some have had a hard time raising new funds and are close to or already out of cash. ¬†Those that still have cash are slow playing their hands, or have reserved their remaining cash exclusively for follow on¬†investments¬†(i.e. topping off their existing portfolio companies when cash gets low). ¬†That being said, these VCs still hang around the “fundraising scene” and will often take a meeting with you, even though they have little to no cash to actively invest, just to ensure themselves that there are not passing on the next Twitter, Groupon, or Zynga. The problem here being that they wouldn’t have the check to write even if they thought you were the next $1B+ exit. ¬†So how do you know which firms are out of money? Here’s 3 easy ways…

1. Ask them point blank how much cash they have to put towards new investments, the last investment they made, and the amount of the check.

2. ¬†Ask around – i.e. other VCs and entrepreneurs to get a 2nd opinion of the firm and it’s financial position, and

3.  Do a little research and find out when they closed their last fund and the amount of the fund.

If everything passes the smell test, then by all means go ahead and court the heck out of them. ¬†If things don’t add up, be sure to ask for intros to other investors that are more active.

UPDATE:

Legendary LA VC Jim Armstrong of Clearstone Ventures wrote a great reubuttal post on his blog here. ¬†Check it out. Jim’s the man!

  • Thanks Dale but my name is actually Ryan. Investors are going to like “attention to detail”.

  • samharrison

    I’ve met with and talked to over half a dozen “associates” and none of them knew anything about the market we were in…and none had even done any real homework at all before the meeting.

    These guys are nothing more than time wasters and will not get you anywhere with a VC. The problem with most, if not all, VC today is that the general partners are too damn lazy to evaluate investments.

    They all want to pile into the latest hype and overpay for a company they hope to flip quick. That’s the truth. From Silicon Valley to Shanghai.

    The “venture capital” industry needs to rename itself as the “unadventurous capital” industry.

  • Hahaha “Don’t Pitch the Bitch”¬† I love it!

  • Greatest fund raising advice on the web…

  • Skobenton

    good advice.  thanks.

  • ShaunHicks

    Great Job, slam dunk . Although I think you went easy on the topic, it is refreshing to see a clever but sophisticated way of calling the game.Hats off…

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